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Bicycle Corrals Coming to Abbot Kinney and Rose!
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January 9, 2013
5:58 pm
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From our buddy Paul Chavez over at Venice Dispatch:

Four on-the-street bike corrals that will convert automobile parking spaces into multi-bicycle parking hubs should be installed on two popular Venice streets by mid-year, a city official said Wednesday.

Bike Coralls Venice Beach

The city plans to install a 3 1/2-foot-tall public bicycle corral in a 34-foot long public right-of-way space at 1201 Abbot Kinney Blvd., in front of The Otheroom bar, that can hold up to 18 bicycles. The bike corral would replace current curb-side vehicular parking and a “Two Hour Parking” sign will be replaced by a “Bicycle Parking” sign. Another bike corral that can hold up to 12 bikes is planned for the 24-foot passenger loading zone at 1427 Abbot Kinney Blvd., in front of the Gjelina Take Away pizza shop.

Two similar bike corrals that can provide parking for up to 12 bikes each have been slated for burgeoning Rose Avenue with bicycle parking planned on the street in front of 512 and 519 Rose Avenue.

Click here to continue reading the rest of the article (there is more) over at Venice Dispatch!

January 9, 2013
7:07 pm
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I'm all for most things that make our town more bike-friendly except when those things result in the reduction of previously existing public parking spaces.

Those bike corrals are beginning to appear to me as form of punishment to drivers of automobiles.

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January 9, 2013
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less cars = more life.

this is the best thing ive heard in a long time.

venice is not designed around the car. 

 

January 10, 2013
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dexter said
less cars = more life.

this is the best thing ive heard in a long time.

venice is not designed around the car. 

 

What does that mean, less cars equals more life?

Do more bicycles equal more life?

What in this instance is your definition of life?

Are you just expressing your feelings or do you have a background in urban planning?

 

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January 10, 2013
8:20 am
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Seems like win-win to me. If there's more people coming on bikes, then there are less people coming in cars. The spot outside The Other Room is just one car (it's half red curb now, as it's a corner). So you swap one car (usually just one or two people) for 18 bikes. 

Of course you won't get full occupancy of the corral at all times, but heck, even six bikes is a net gain on one car. It's not taking away spaces, it's ADDING spaces.

Anecdotally I'm much more inclined to ride my bike to Main Street now that they have the bike parking. I'm less inclined to ride to Rose because they lack bike parking. 

 

 

 

 

January 10, 2013
9:10 am
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18 drunk people on bikes vs 3 drunks and (hopefully) a designated driver in a car?

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January 10, 2013
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Mick said
Seems like win-win to me. If there's more people coming on bikes, then there are less people coming in cars. The spot outside The Other Room is just one car (it's half red curb now, as it's a corner). So you swap one car (usually just one or two people) for 18 bikes. 

Of course you won't get full occupancy of the corral at all times, but heck, even six bikes is a net gain on one car. It's not taking away spaces, it's ADDING spaces.

Anecdotally I'm much more inclined to ride my bike to Main Street now that they have the bike parking. I'm less inclined to ride to Rose because they lack bike parking. 

I don't see how that argument holds.

It sounds like you're saying you've had to avoid traveling to Main Street for fear of not finding a place to park your bike and suddenly, now that there's ample bike parking you'll start going there again?

Really?

However, if bike corrals are not taking away car parking spaces then I guess I don't have a problem.

 

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January 10, 2013
11:09 am
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There needs to be a total reevaluation of the parking in the Rose Ave area. At the end of my street is the Superba Snack Shop (great but $$$) there is a 25 foot red zone that was put there to allow drivers to see more traffic heading east on Rose. The building, built long before the red zone law, goes all of the way to the corner of the lot... blocking any view provided by the 25-ft long red zone.

Put the bloody thing there where it will provide for bikes while not taking up more parking... and I'd bet there are other places on Rose that could take up the bike storage situation without the spaces that will be needed for the evening valet white zones in the near future...

Cars vs. bikes is a "Beachhead Collective" hot button, eat-the-rich issue and waste of bandwidth but smart vs. uncreative thinking is something to write about...

I'm changing my mantra: For a Clean, Safe, and Smart Venice.  

January 10, 2013
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SaltWater said

I don't see how that argument holds.

It sounds like you're saying you've had to avoid traveling to Main Street for fear of not finding a place to park your bike and suddenly, now that there's ample bike parking you'll start going there again?

Really?

However, if bike corrals are not taking away car parking spaces then I guess I don't have a problem.

Sorry I was not being very clear there. I meant that I would be more likely to DRIVE to Main Street if there was nowhere to park my bike. 

And it's not as if there's just ONE factor in the decision, it's kind of more a tipping point - I could drive, I could ride my bike, I could not go at all, but the more attractive and easier riding a bike become, then the more likely I am to do it. Things like the new bike lanes and the easy bike parking just tip the balance, rather than being make-or-break requirements. 

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