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September 24, 2010
8:05 pm
Claude Balls
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Lying through his teeth?

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September 24, 2010
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Claude Balls said:

Lying through his teeth?


ROFL

 

My apologies Bret. I know I shouldn't have.  It was just one of those classic humourous moments that, were he a real politician, would have been lampooned on everything from Leno – SNL. 

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September 24, 2010
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Venetian said:

 

My apologies Bret. I know I shouldn't have.  It was just one of those classic humourous moments that, were he a real politician, would have been lampooned on everything from Leno – SNL. 


 

That's cool.

Not chastising you at alll. A lot of people read this site and I don't want those images up here. It is a physical imperfection people are pointing out in the thread and that has nothing to do with the mans politics. Once again, feel free to attack his politics, but I don't want to be part of making fun of an accident not of his making that would certainly embarrass me, you or any of our family members if the same happened to them.

 

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September 24, 2010
11:29 pm
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Venetian said:

Claude Balls said:

Lying through his teeth?


ROFL
 

My apologies Bret. I know I shouldn't have.  It was just one of those classic humourous moments that, were he a real politician, would have been lampooned on everything from Leno – SNL. 


I don't think anyone should apologize here. When you are a politician you have to expect these kind of snaps. I was sort of kidding when I asked anyone if they had pics. Hey, everyone has embarrassing moments.  But he stood up there and lied* through his teeth and they fell out….period the end.

*He was not in Europe when he found out about the Fleet and Pacific sewage spill. He was shown photos at a meeting on August 19. 

September 25, 2010
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That whole "out of the country" thing did sound a little "appalachian trail'. 

 

I am willing to give him another 30 days to see if his plan works. It was impressive to see him dance on the razor between looking ineffectual or incompetent and not causing an old fashioned brawl.

 

If people always get the government they deserve, he's definitely our guy. 

 

I think he was lying by omission last night though. Mostly because he didn't want to start a riot. Which I think was the right thing to do. He is demonstrating extreme compassion while steadily turning up the heat. He is setting up a situation where he is going to call the VD's bluff, because he is presenting them with a humane choice, and none of the people in that room last night are going to take the carrot. 

 

I don't think the VD were able to properly absorb the information they were hearing.

 

The 21 new full time cops are not here to be help them get their cats out of trees. 

 

They are the most expensive babysitters in town and hopefully we won't need them here for very long. 

 

I am really disappointed that no-one asked about the arson fires, no one asked about the gutter punk situation and no one asked about the new parking lot policies. 

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September 25, 2010
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I was driving down Lincoln this evening and saw a couple of cops walking to dinner, I assume, and it made me think that's not something you see often, officers on foot. I know occasionally during the summer you will see cops on bikes or horseback on OFW but I would love to see some of the new 21 officers on bikes or foot between Pacific and Lincoln. Maybe patrolling Rose, Hampton, 4th street, etc. I love seeing a cruiser drive down Rose but if I were to see a couple walking, that would really make me feel better.

 

Anyone else have thoughts on that?

September 25, 2010
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wshep said:

I was driving down Lincoln this evening and saw a couple of cops walking to dinner, I assume, and it made me think that's not something you see often, officers on foot. I know occasionally during the summer you will see cops on bikes or horseback on OFW but I would love to see some of the new 21 officers on bikes or foot between Pacific and Lincoln. Maybe patrolling Rose, Hampton, 4th street, etc. I love seeing a cruiser drive down Rose but if I were to see a couple walking, that would really make me feel better.

 

Anyone else have thoughts on that?


 

More street level community policing is always a welcome addition. I know it has worked very well in urban environments backeast. Instead of the old model of dispatchers sending cruisers from wherever to a reported incident, Officers are assigned to police a community, using both cruisers and foot patrols. You know you local "beat cops" by name – and they become more protective of your neighborhood – its more about crime prevention than reaction. Of course, the offenders hate it and often screamed "human rights abuse" – but as long as they are ignored and sensible heads prevail, it has proven to be very positive for communities with crime issues like ours. BTW, the protests die down pretty quick- the neighborhood loves it, and the offenders only get 30 mins a week on the phone from the jailhouse, so they use that time for other purposes.

September 25, 2010
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Again, I'll bring up the substation on OFW .

Imagine being able to go there to get Police help any time day or night.

Imagine it being upgraded to have holding cells for offenders.

What a difference it would make!

September 25, 2010
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Chessy Peake said:

 

More street level community policing is always a welcome addition. I know it has worked very well in urban environments backeast. Instead of the old model of dispatchers sending cruisers from wherever to a reported incident, Officers are assigned to police a community, using both cruisers and foot patrols. You know you local "beat cops" by name – and they become more protective of your neighborhood – its more about crime prevention than reaction. Of course, the offenders hate it and often screamed "human rights abuse" – but as long as they are ignored and sensible heads prevail, it has proven to be very positive for communities with crime issues like ours. BTW, the protests die down pretty quick- the neighborhood loves it, and the offenders only get 30 mins a week on the phone from the jailhouse, so they use that time for other purposes.


 

Super great idea if we had more cops. But LA is already one of (perhaps even the most?) the most underserved big cities in the US.

 

From Wikipedia: 

The Los Angeles Police Department has suffered from chronic underfunding and under-staffing recently.[59]
Compared to most other large cities in the United States, Los Angeles
has historically had one of the lowest ratios of police personnel to
population served.[59] Former police chief William J. Bratton
has made enlarging the force one of his top priorities (Bratton has
been quoted as saying, "You give me 4,000 more officers and I'll give
you the safest city in the world").[60]

The Los Angeles Police Department protects its city with only one officer for every 426 residents.[59] As a point of comparison, New York City boasts one NYPD officer for every 228 residents.[59]
For Los Angeles to have the same ratio of officers as New York City,
the LAPD would need to add nearly 17,000 officers. Further points of
comparison include Chicago, which has a ratio of one officer per 216
citizens and Philadelphia, whose officer per citizen ratio is 1 to 219.[59]

September 25, 2010
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Shane said:

Again, I'll bring up the substation on OFW .

Imagine being able to go there to get Police help any time day or night.

Imagine it being upgraded to have holding cells for offenders.

What a difference it would make!


They could have a safe public toilet right there!
September 25, 2010
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cch said:

Shane said:

Again, I'll bring up the substation on OFW .

Imagine being able to go there to get Police help any time day or night.

Imagine it being upgraded to have holding cells for offenders.

What a difference it would make!


They could have a safe public toilet right there!
 

That actually makes perfect sense. What could be safer for everyone involved?
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September 25, 2010
7:15 am
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cch said:

Shane said:

Again, I'll bring up the substation on OFW .

Imagine being able to go there to get Police help any time day or night.

Imagine it being upgraded to have holding cells for offenders.

What a difference it would make!


They could have a safe public toilet right there!
 

True. However, removing the criminal transients would pretty much remove any need for 2:am toilets. 
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