I would like the laws to be enforced.  Venice is not a campground or trash dump.  No over night camping with tents and coleman cookers.  Do not leave your crap on our sidewalks and in our parks and expect it to not be dumped.

I have have attended VNC meetings and Brad and I are on good terms.

Lets clean up Venice and make it safer.

So it sounds like there were no issues again this weekend?

In hearing the complaints here that aren't actually related to Whole Foodss feeding the homeless, I'm struck by what I don't hear.  What I personally see as much bigger problems have nothing to do with the homeless.  I see litter all over the place (particularly from weekend visitors), people driving the wrong way down one-way streets, people cruising right through stop signs, etc.  The litter is just annoying, I admit.  But the driving is extemely dangerous -- yet I don't see the police do anything about it, and I don't hear many complaints.  Maybe it's not as widespread an issue as it appears to me?

DL said

digiblizzo said
shame on the invading yuppie cockroaches who now want Venice to be like SM, Palisades, or wherever the heck it is they MOVED from…take your yoga mats, bike lanes, and lack of compassion for human beings back to your yuppy caves…

 

while it may not be the BEST idea to feed the truly helpless and hungry mixed in with the drug addicted and mentally challenged, it is the RIGHT thing to do to help your fellow human…unless of course you're NOT human…and a damned NIMBY

small minded much? just because some of us want a clean, safe neighborhood does not make us yuppies. Yes, i have a lack of compassion for those who sleep behind my house, park their RV outside my door, leave their trash for me to pick up, piss where the neighborhood kids play. You're ok with that? I don't understand the mentality of "let's keep Venice the way it is" or "don't turn us into Santa Monica." Why wouldn't you want to better your neighborhood? Let's wash Venice of the grim.

Better we should wash Venice of people like you because you obviously don't get what this town is all about and would probably be happier somewhere else..

Venice Vortex said
Venice should be cleaned up.  There is no excuse to encourage the homeless to stay here.  The residents are tired of being abused by the belligerent homeless.  We have been abused for too long.  We are going to help the homeless find another town to camp in and trash.  The tides are turning.  Less homelss in Venice is better for Venice residents.  Its just that simple.

 

If any of you homeless advocates have a solution to the homeless problem, the compassionate Venice residents like myself and other like minded folks will support the solution.  But your only solution is to leave things like they are.  That is unacceptable and change for the better is going to take place.  If you don't want to live in a cleaner safer Venice, than move to skid row.

You're right Vortex, Venice does need cleaning up.  But I gotta tell you, first us housed Venetians need to start looking at ourselves in the mirror and live the example we are preaching to our homeless population.  I look around at a lot of our streets and alleys and see we housed residents don't even keep the areas around our own homes clean rather we expect the City to come and do it what maybe once a week or our landlords. Why?  Cause we pay taxes and rent, whatever!  My grandparents paid taxes and they always cleaned the area around their properties.  Why?  Cause they had pride in their community.  We also continue to have bad lightening, and as every girl will tell ya lightening is everything ; ) and yes I know that is being addressed but at a snail's pace (I've addressed this on here before as well as at a VNC meeting).  As to other suggestions, we need to stop dissing the services already available here for the homeless and support them cause like it or not homeless people wanna be here just like housed people and tourist so stop hating on St. Joseph Center and the Venice Family Clinic and start supporting them; the Venice Art Walk is coming up the end of this month so go buy a ticket/t-shirt/poster and see all the great art being done in our community and I am sure rather than tossing your unwanted items into the alleys St. Joseph's would gladly accept them so they can sell them to support their outreach programs and yes you probably will have to take it to them.   

Ms V I am confused about your statement, I think that you are also confused.  What do you mean by this sentence “Venetians need to start looking at ourselves in the mirror and live the example we are preaching to our homeless population.  I look around at a lot of our streets and alleys and see we housed residents don't even keep the areas around our own homes clean rather we expect the City to come and do it what maybe once a week or our landlords. Why?  ”      There is not a connection between resident’s lack of lawn and alley maintenance and the type of abuse that we are subjected to by the Venice transient population here.

Are you insinuating that I am not a supporter of the art crawl?  I am on a first name basis with the art crawl board and have been very supportive of it since the 1^st art crawl.

So you want us to support the local homeless services.  I did not attack the local homeless services.

Maybe your point is that the residents need to clean up their act?  Wow, we are lucky to have you on that committee.

BTW I moved to Venice in 1991.  My long time Venice friends want Venice to change for the better.  There is not a divide between the long term residents and the newer residents.  We all want the same thing, a cleaner and safer community.

All the crap moves to Rose and OFW because there are fewer Venice NIMBY's to complain against it.