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Venice Canal Residents Flustered by New Homeless Camp
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December 27, 2009
4:03 pm
Bret
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Venice Canal residents have recently become frustrated with a new homeless camp that has been active on Grand Canal under the bridge at Venice Boulevard. Citing safety and sanitary concerns, residents have been actively calling the LAPD for assistance. We have been told the LAPD is aware of the homeless camp, but so far they have been unable to do anything about this enclave which has apparently been unruly and littering and defecating near or in the canals. One resident says "this past week they were in a neighbors yard discussing how to break in." Maybe it is time for Mayor Villaraigosa to make like Prince William and spend an evening sleeping with the homeless to see what can be done by the city to help people.  

December 27, 2009
10:46 pm
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How can the police be unable to do something about this? What else are they doing?

December 28, 2009
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Because every time they try to do something about it, a group of local activists start screaming and the Police, (rightly so)

say, "Screw this, why bother?"

December 28, 2009
8:46 am
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Thats exactly right. I spoke to a cop this summer and asked him why they don't do anything regarding vagrancy and homelessness, after an incident on our property. He told me that he originally worked South Central. He recently was assigned to Venice, and initially was very excited and eager to "clean up" around here. He felt that it was amazing how much crime went on here. He said he made many arrests his first couple weeks, but he started getting complaints from the local residents. The complaints got so bad they started calling his superior. All a result of arresting the homeless. So he told me that it is "not worth it" for him to make any arrests or attempts to clean up Venice because he gets into too much trouble.

December 28, 2009
12:39 pm
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I was told by police that even regular patrols on foot along Oceanfront Walk had to be stopped because if cops started busting illegal vendors

or the homeless, they would get complaints of harassment if they busted the guy more than once. It would take 3 offenses before it would go anywhere, and then there's a judge who just throws all the  cases out. So what's the use? Until residents get as organized as the activists and start putting up a stink, Venice will remain a dumping ground.

December 28, 2009
12:52 pm
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I had an abandoned house two doors from me for a while (some kind of weird legal battle), which was being used by homeless/squatters -- they were lighting small fires in there and it was a real hazard. I complained to Rosendahl's office and spoke to one of his deputies, who put me in touch with a lead officer at the Pacific division (I can't recall her name at the moment). They actually moved very quickly -- got the housing department involved and told the owners that they clean up the "nuisance" and make the house inaccessible or face big-time penalties. 

I don't know what you can do in the case of squatters on public property, but I would suggest contacting Rosendahl's office and speaking to one of his Venice deputies. I found both his office and the LAPD officer to be very responsive to the situation. You need to emphasize the potential hazards your situation is creating as well as the overall nuisance. 

I wonder if that's the group that was hanging around my neighborhood and then Rose Ave. for a while. Younger, right? Big-time substance abuse? That is a pretty creepy bunch, if so. 

December 28, 2009
2:19 pm
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Yikes, that is awful.  And I thought the one homeless guy that's been sleeping on the Thornton Ave walk street for the past couple weeks was a nuisance.  Especially since the lights on the street mysteriously went out around the time he started showing up…its scary for people walking down from Pacific.   

December 28, 2009
2:53 pm
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Hire some thug-life pipe-hitting mofos to get medieval.

I mean, as a community.

Thereby defraying costs to the individual homeowners.

For the children!

http://www.weirdthings.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/football-hooligan-training-camp-for-kids.jpg

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December 28, 2009
2:54 pm
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I usually talk to Mark Grant at Rosendahl's office.  He's a Special Assistant to Bill.  He's always been helpful to me and the place where I worked.  310-568-8772  mark.grant@lacity.org

December 28, 2009
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I called Rosendahl's office this morning and they said they were "aware" of the situation and they were working with LAPD to try to remove the group.  He said if anyone has any problems to please call 911.  If that encampment isn't completely dismantled in a few days I think we should all start calling his office and LAPD until it's taken care of. 

December 28, 2009
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come on people … aintt you heard of heroin???

thats the parking lot to get it… 

December 29, 2009
10:44 am
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Once there was a street person, "Dirty Sally", she would be coherent one day belligerent the next. She ended up in front of my house in 1986 for about a week of late night yelling until the lawn sprinklers interfered with her place of living. She moved on to another place where the lawn sprinklers had the same effect……..I just heard the other day she is alive and well (sober), hmmmmm……….

Another time some people would hang in the alley, shooting up, having sex, defecating, selling drugs, the qualities of life we now expect. These people like to do these things without being seen, so one day two one hundred watt sodium lights created light so all could be seen. I have run those lights now for 25 years……….maybe about $.25 a night, but the empty alley is a wonderful sight.

Too many are waiting for the Police or Resendahl, they don't live here they're just collecting a check. Please do what you can, on your own, take your own backyard back.

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