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Son Stabs Parents in Venice: 1-10-13
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January 10, 2013
2:52 pm
Bret
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Update: 5'11, 240lb suspect Zeke Greenbaum was booked for Felony Assault with a Deadly Weapon at 2:50pm today. He is being held on $30,000 bail.

At approximately 7:30 this morning, a 25 year old male attacked both of his parents in the 400 block of Carroll Canal.

400 Block Carroll Canal Venice

Witness "OT" was jogging along Carroll Canal when he heard a faint cry for help."OT" investigated and found a woman lying in a pool blood. "The woman said her son had done it to her and was inside killing her husband, please call 911".

A source at the LAPD says it appears that the son attacked his father first, with a knife. The son then turned on his mother and stabbed her in her upper body, in the face, neck and arms. After stabbing his mother the son apparently went back to attack his father again. It is not clear when, but the son also received non-life threatening injuries during one of the melees with his father.

LAPD reports that the Mother is presently at a local hospital in serious condition. It is not believed that her injuries are life threatening at this point in time.

LAPD reports that the father has been treated for his injuries.

LAPD reports that the son was arrested, but has not yet been booked. The son is being treated for non- life threatening injuries.

It is not clear at this point if the attack was related to emotional issues/ mental illness or if the son was under the influence. The investigation is ongoing.

Update: 3:30pm – The son is out of the hospital and being booked right now.

January 10, 2013
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I can't imagine what a 25 year old is doing living with his parents, unless he's home for the holidays from graduate school.

 

I guess more information will be forth coming.

January 11, 2013
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shantyirish said
I can't imagine what a 25 year old is doing living with his parents, unless he's home for the holidays from graduate school.

 

In the Los Angeles area, 28% of people aged 25-29 live with their parents, higher than the national average of around 20%

source: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com…..56623746/1

 

January 11, 2013
10:37 am
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shantyirish said
I can't imagine what a 25 year old is doing living with his parents, unless he's home for the holidays from graduate school.

 

I think you're kidding but…?  With LAs diversity we have a large population of folks who culturally live with their parents/family until they're married…

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January 11, 2013
11:48 am
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I assume it is some mental problem, sad very sad.

If you check today statistics, you will probably find more kids living with their parents because THERE IS NO JOBS for them. They think they should be “spoon” everything, everyone get a “trophy” there is no longer winner and looser etc etc. Sure there is the aspect of Latino culture where you live with your parents until you get marry,( that contribute to this statistic too in Los Angeles) but I think the problem is much more rooted in our children growing in such a liberal society where there is no accountability to anything.

January 11, 2013
1:14 pm
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OK Venice Canal, your argument is undermined by your bad grammar – perhaps your lack of understanding about how to match verbs and nouns is also a result of 'liberal society'. Liberal society has nothing to do with how families cope with a mentally ill family member.

As most people are not trained mental health professionals, it is gut-wrenching to have to make black-and-white decisions about how to deal with a mentally ill family member whom you love dearly.  The parents were lucky to be noticed by the jogger who called 911.   

 

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January 11, 2013
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Best friend since 2nd grade got married, had a kid and moved to San Diego for his wife's work.

She got transferred so they moved back here and the three of them moved in with his Mom (big house, they had their own "wing" more or less). They always joked "were Mexicans, that's how we roll!"

Anyway, when they moved in with his mom, he was making 100k+ a year, his wife (a lawyer) was making 200k+ … their decision was based on happiness …. Grandma loved playing with the kid while they were at work. Freed up a lot of money for the couple, they were able to have nice vacations and provide their kid with great schools.

They eventually divorced after ten years of marriage … these days my friend has a new house, and his ex-wife still lives at his Mom's house! HAHA! She is now making close to 300k a year, she could be in her own place …  it just works for all of them … everyone is happy.

So yeah … it isn't always lack of finances that keep families together under one roof … sometimes families just like being close families.

 

Anyway, this is all off topic – I for one am not judging the family on Carroll, and I hope that everything works out for all of them. Such a sad situation.

 

January 11, 2013
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Perhaps this particular family was dysfunctional?

January 11, 2013
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I, too, hope all works out for them. Mental health is a severe problem long ignored by our politicians.

 

I guess the point I was making is that there seems to be a reluctance on the part of California parents to ween their kids. I say this because I've lived all across this nation and never have I seen sooooooo many adults living with their parents.

 

I was struck many years ago (actually decades) by this phenomena. Not one single childhood friend of mine lived with their parent(s) after college, not one. I had the privilege of living in two communities (summer place) and of the dozens of males I befriended they couldn't wait to be on their own, and some of those first places were terrible.

 

People often answer my question with the cost of living so high in Venice what can they do. Well I was raised in a town where none of us could afford the homes, a few managed to move back after gaining some success and most could not. So we simply lived where we could afford to live. On our own.

 

Take my observation with a grain of salt, but I fear for the narcissism that creeps into society.  A lifestyle is not easy, fair, or an entitlement. You need to grow up, challenge life, make your life worthwhile.

 

Striving for a locker is not worthwhile.

 

As to the issue of mental health. Maybe the Connecticut tragedy could have been averted if the family had bothered to seek mental health counsel instead of hiding their son's issues. If Joe Biden really wants to contribute to the issue of gun violence he'll focus on the one constant in most all of these cases-mental health. I hate to say it, but the NRA is right. Guns are inanimate objects and don't kill, people kill. That said there is plenty of room for logic, no one needs a .50 caliber rifle or a banana clip with thirty rounds to hunt Bambi.

 

Shanty

January 11, 2013
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shantyirish said

I say this because I've lived all across this nation and never have I seen sooooooo many adults living with their parents.

Los Angeles is expensive. 

Bar tender friends in Colorado can buy nice 2-3 bedroom homes with their income. Here? Not possible.

The overwhelming majority of people in their 20's-30's that are buying homes around here are getting financial assistance from their parents or their trusts. They may be out from under their parents roof, but they are still having their bills subsidized by their parents.

 

Same with shop owners around here … think normal "working folk" are opening businesses in Venice these days without being well off to begin with (and not thru bank loans)? I know a lot about where the "real" money comes from to run many of these local businesses … there are a lot of "hobby" businesses around here these days …

January 11, 2013
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You are so right Bret. Venice is expensive.

 

You made my point in that if you want to live in an upscale town you'll need Daddy's help. I don't know about you but I could not have opened any of the business I have today, today. Too expensive. I could have asked Daddy, but choose to do it on me for me.  If I wanted to duplicate my life it would not be in Los Angeles County, but maybe Austin, Texas.

 

Fact of life is that big boys (and girls) make their lives what they want and where they can not where they want.

 

My only intent in my reply was a simple observation, it is what it is!

 

Shanty

January 11, 2013
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swankgirlvenice said
OK Venice Canal, your argument is undermined by your bad grammar – perhaps your lack of understanding about how to match verbs and nouns is also a result of 'liberal society'. Liberal society has nothing to do with how families cope with a mentally ill family member.

As most people are not trained mental health professionals, it is gut-wrenching to have to make black-and-white decisions about how to deal with a mentally ill family member whom you love dearly.  The parents were lucky to be noticed by the jogger who called 911.   

 

Funny how when you have nothing to say you bash my luck of profiction in the English language. If you read my post before you would know that I was lucky to get educated in a different country where English is not the primary language.

Back to the subject of kids living at home more than ever, do you dispute that most of it, is because there are no jobs? Do you dispute that the mental illness cannot be solved because the ACLU case, where the mentally ill need to sign agreement to be checked in and it is not up the family member to check then in? We disputed the ACLU case that affected the mentally ill on this blog before so if you miss it, Google it and may be you can get an answer why the son was living at home.

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