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Rosendahl Letter to Public Works Board Requests Denial of Zipline Appeal
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August 10, 2012
1:15 pm
Bret
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Update: the appeal was denied earlier today. The Venice Zipline project will now go before the Coastal Commission.

From Councilman Bill Rosendahl:

August 9, 2012
ATTN: Commissioners of the Board of Public Works
RE: Letter of Support for the Venice Zip Line

Dear Board:

I am writing to respectfully request you deny the appeal and approve the issuance of the Local Coastal Development Permit (CDP) 12-03 in connection with the Venice Zip Line Project.

Rosendahl Zip Line

During this economic crisis, all City departments have had to learn to do more with less. Permitting the Venice Zip Line would be a wonderful opportunity for a private-public partnership that could generate some much needed revenue for Los Angeles City Recreation and Parks to maintain Venice Beach. If approved, the Zip Line would be permitted for a three month trial period which will allow the City to assess whether there are traffic, noise or other issues attributed to this project.

I have requested the majority of the revenue collected by Recreation and Parks to go directly to Venice Beach for improved maintenance operations at the restrooms and boardwalk. I believe the Venice Zip Line will minimize the impact of the current budget on Venice Beach.

This project has my support because businesses and residents have expressed a need for additional maintenance at the Venice Beach Recreation Center.

Regards,

BILL ROSENDAHL
Councilmember, 11th District

August 10, 2012
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So wrong … planting billboards in front of the ocean would also bring in revenue.

 

I believe the Zip Line, the kind of zip line the Mayor of London was briefly trapped on, will bring trouble … certainly will trouble the minimal parking and the handful of public restrooms as well as impact a clear view of the ocean, which is a unique wrong.

 

Businesses have not asked for this and many are dreading clusters of people possibly interfering with their customers. 

 

Come on California Coastal Commission, please protect the beach.

August 10, 2012
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I repeat my statement – if the zip line is such a financial boon for Venice, why do we need a private developer.  Why not have the city purchase and operate the zip line as part of Parks & Rec, create a few new city jobs and keep 100% of the profit for Venice.  We train police and fire fighters in Los Angeles, how hard could it be to train a couple of carnies to run a zip line?

Oh right, I forgot, you get rid of the "private partner" and there's nobody to kick $$$ back to Bill R as part of his re-election campaign. Bill is literally selling out the good people of Venice so that he and his developer friend can make a profit.

Bill R = Venice's Boss Hogg!!!!

August 10, 2012
11:05 pm
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Rosendahl sure has a lot of heat on this zip line deal. I can only imagine what his end of the deal is. 

August 11, 2012
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Bird Man of Venice said
I repeat my statement – if the zip line is such a financial boon for Venice, why do we need a private developer.  Why not have the city purchase and operate the zip line as part of Parks & Rec, create a few new city jobs and keep 100% of the profit for Venice.  We train police and fire fighters in Los Angeles, how hard could it be to train a couple of carnies to run a zip line?

Oh right, I forgot, you get rid of the "private partner" and there's nobody to kick $$$ back to Bill R as part of his re-election campaign. Bill is literally selling out the good people of Venice so that he and his developer friend can make a profit.

Bill R = Venice's Boss Hogg!!!!

While I agree there's nothing redeeming about the zip line I just gotta say that if you think it's a bad idea now just imagine how effed up it would be if it were run by city government! I can almost guarantee that Parks & Rec would find a way to lose money.

I'm salty and that's what keeps me spicy ©

August 11, 2012
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Does anyone get the feeling that maybe 'Empty Suit' doesn't like Venice???? Or maybe he's not calling the shots for the CD?

 

Shanty

August 11, 2012
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SaltWater said

While I agree there's nothing redeeming about the zip line I just gotta say that if you think it's a bad idea now just imagine how effed up it would be if it were run by city government! I can almost guarantee that Parks & Rec would find a way to lose money.

Why do we automatically assume government can't do anything right?  This is a decidedly American idea, since most other countries tend to have some faith in their government (and by that, I mean countries with a functioning democratic government.)  In America, we automatically assume everyone looses about 50 points off their IQ the moment they get elected.

Next time you have a fire, notice how quickly the big red fire trucks show up, how professional and skillful the firefighters are.  Government doesn't do a bad job of running that department.

A lot of government programs run just fine.

In fact, I would say I've never had 1/10th the problem with any government agency that I've had with customer service at the cable company, and that's a private corporation.  Airlines, another private company, loose your bags from time to time.

There is undoubtedly a problem with influence and corruption in government, which can lead to waste and mismanagement.  But should we blame government or the private corporations that expend considerable energy to corrupt it?

Personally, I'd rather trust a government that is elected and has an interest in keeping the public happy, rather than a corporation that is only interested in profit any day.

August 11, 2012
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Bird Man of Venice, I think you are flying too high, “Why do we automatically assume government can't do anything right?” Fact that why, just count how many cities, states and the USA are on the edge for bankruptcy and that tell you that government cannot do anything right. When government employees earn more than the privet sector (for the same work) and still cannot manage their finance (basic economic 101, don't spend more then you earn) what else can they do right? Have you been in the DMV lately? Did you ask for a permit for anything lately? Have you been in the post office lately?

The zip line will be just a distraction on the sand and someone will pocket the money after he contributes some of it to BR re-election. What is it about BR that he does not understand that most Venetian DO NOT want the zip line? (I may be have answer for it, but I will stay PC for now).

August 11, 2012
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Interesting quote over on LAist:

 

Commissioner Steven Nutter, a Venice resident, admitted that it would change the character of the area but he said there's still plenty of solitude to be found just north or just south of Venice:

"While this will turn that part of Venice into a bit of a circus, there's plenty of beach, there's plenty of solitude. You just have to head south towards Dockweiler. You just have to head north towards Malibu. There's plenty of places where you're not going to hear the noise."

August 11, 2012
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SaltWater said

While I agree there's nothing redeeming about the zip line I just gotta say that if you think it's a bad idea now just imagine how effed up it would be if it were run by city government! I can almost guarantee that Parks & Rec would find a way to lose money.

 

Bird Man of Venice said A lot of government programs run just fine.

Like the postal service, IRS, Medicare to name a few?

But if you think I'm wrong and want to talk to someone else who might not agree with you just ask a Native American about government programs running just fine.

I'm salty and that's what keeps me spicy ©

August 11, 2012
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Bret said
Interesting quote over on LAist:

"While this will turn that part of Venice into a bit of a circus, there's plenty of beach, there's plenty of solitude. You just have to head south towards Dockweiler. You just have to head north towards Malibu. There's plenty of places where you're not going to hear the noise."

Priceless. Is he willing to pay for all the residents around that area to move to Malibu?

August 11, 2012
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don't worry venice.  kevin regan said that he will ensure extra port-a-potties will be available if necessary.