July 19, 2010
Seriously hope this project fails and isn't implemented. Without additional parking, policing and restrooms, this is more likely to cause problems not offset by some revenue. Queuing up on a boardwalk that is intensely crowded is troubling. Honestly, the visuals of this seem dreadful. The ocean, the sand, the bike path, the characters … plenty, steeped in history. Ziplines? What exactly is the purpose? A thrill ride of sorts by the Pacific Ocean? Restrooms are scarce and sometimes even carry their own dangers.
I have emailed Bill Rosendahl and tweeted as well. Just thinking how some are opposed to the gourmet food trucks because they bring a lot of people. Yet it's ok to subvert the ocean views for commercial purposes without making sure the area can be served? Oh and about the sidewalk on Main Street by the school … can't even get that fixed with all the parents and children hazarding scraped knees and worse?
September 30, 2008
Received a letter from Board of Public Works today informing us that the zip line is has been approved. According to the letter, an appeal must be filed within 10 calendar days. I hope there is an appeal. If anyone wants to do this the number to call is 213 485 5756… Ask for Catalina Hernandez.
Venice brings in so much revenue to the city of L.A., yet we seem to always get the short end of the stick in services.
July 19, 2010
￼ Arturo Pina (firstname.lastname@example.org) responded immediately with a copy of the Notice Of Decision On Local Coastal Development Permit 12-03 Venice Zip Line which was, gasp, approved without additional conditions. An appeal can be filed no later than 5pm on July 13 with the office of the City Engineer. Filing a notice of permit issuance or denial with the Coastal Commission starts a 20 day period during which an appeal may be made. The California Coastal Commission will review the proposed development (and my hope is that is denied … how can they block any part of the view of the beach and ocean???)
I've left two messages with Catalina Hernandez at 213-485-5756 requesting information on how exactly to do the appeal.
I know my kid would love to do it but adding anything to the skyline and having more throngs of people queuing up and making more of a commotion seems awful. There are barely any public bathrooms, the few there are are dirty with insane weekend lines. There's no additional parking, no additional security/police and it really feels like someone is getting paid off to get this through.
Not sure if this is widely supported in Venice?
Have never filed appeals or done anything like this.
October 25, 2010
I don't care whether there is a Zip line or not. If it is likely to enrich the City sufficiently to make the Ocean Front Walk less of a mess, maybe it's not a bad idea. The problem is that things like this require serious evaluation before they are undertaken. Things like how many people who really do visit Venice Beach can afford to spend $20 per minuter on anything. There is no proper marketing analysis. There is supposed to be some kind of evaluation of impact upon the community but that's not there. It does not seem to being handled as a realistic business proposition but as the Friday night after work relaxer inspiration written on a paper napkin sort of idea. It's like just about every other idea dreamt up regarding development of tourism for Ocean Front Walk, not thought through with any seriousness. The latest Council person calls upon his/her staff and his/her core constituents or party friends and that is the beginning and the end of it.
Fifteen years ago, there were a few performers and buskers on Ocean Front Walk, but it was not a significant issue for residents because it was all brief and not regulare. Today, the Ocean Front Walk is supposed to be a mile long stage for performers and that is a problem because the Ocean Front Walk was never designed to be such a thing. The City with the encouragement of the Council District office and local advocates refused to evaluate the effects of such a use upon the community, with the cynical notion that if residents did not like it, they should move. Silly actually, because even those who advocate this situation could not live with it if they experienced the result as do so many of the residents. There is a lack of respect for the lives of others in these actions.
Parking is not a minor problem with respect to Venice Beach. The parking problems that arose from so many dwellings without parking for residents began decades ago. Many residents from Main westward must park on City streets. Starting in the 1980's nobody who relied upon the City streets for parking could move their cars on weekend afternoons because they simply could not find an empty space if they returned before dusk. The lack of parking remains and attracting additional tourism simply cannot be sustained unless this problem is solved, but there is no effort to solve this problem.
Venice Beach might have potential to become the great attraction that seems to be desired but it is not that now, despite the hype about it being the second most popular tourist destination, if a lot of thought and care went into planning it. So far, there has been next to no serious planning evident to any reasonable person.
Let them put up the Zip line. There is not that much to see that is not visible on the ground or from other vantage points that cost you nothing.
June 16, 2009
July 19, 2010
Just received the City of LA Appeal and sighing, forms, yuck.
If anybody is gifted at forms and can complete this without the likelihood of my mistakes, that would be amazing, can forward pdf.
Otherwise will call downtown and try to get this completed accurately.
is there a word for fear of forms?
September 2, 2010
can forward pdf.
Email it to email@example.com and I will host it for all.
July 19, 2010
Click here to download the appeal form. (I added this to the front page too)
I am attaching a copy of the appeal form for Coastal Development Permit 12-03. Please fill out completely and return to the following address:
Department of Public Works
BOE – EMG
Attention: Catalina Hernandez
1149 S. Broadway, STE 600, MS939
Los Angeles, CA 90015
We must receive your appeal no later that 5 p.m. on July 13, 2012. If you have any questions please contact me.
Environmental Specialist II
Public Works Engineering
Environmental Management Group
1149 S. Broadway – Suite 600
Los Angeles, CA 90015-2213