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Local Man Killed by Marijuana Smugglers
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December 19, 2012
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Terrell Horne III, a crew member of the 87-foot Coast Guard Cutter Halibut based out of Marina Del Rey, died December 2nd from injuries sustained while conducting maritime law enforcement operations off the California coast. He was killed in the line of duty while attempting to apprehend smugglers in the waters near Santa Cruz Island. He leaves a wife and three lovely small children living in Redondo Beach.

U.S. Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer Terrell Horne III

U.S. Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer Terrell Horne III

I attended Terrell's memorial service. Throughout the ceremony I struggled to reconcile how, on one hand three children lost their father because he was trying to stop an illegal activity - smuggling pot into the United States from Mexico - while at the same time, a bunch of people in green pajamas are selling pot on the boardwalk in Venice, openly and notoriously, under the legal fiction of helping sick people.

The community at large rightly has varying opinions regarding what the law should be regarding the sale, transportation, and use of "illegal" drugs. But, the questions remains . . . how many more children are going to be orphaned in this country and in Mexico before we reconcile our morass of conflicting laws, federal, state and local, on this issue? I feel like we are all to blame for this.

John Betz
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December 19, 2012
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This is a horrible event and a great example of why we need to legalize and regulate drugs in this country. Those people on the boardwalk (as obnoxious as they can be at times) are putting a big dent in the cartels' business. The more laws of prohibition we make the more criminals like these murderers will be employed. Your choice: annoying boardwalk pajama people or murderous cartels.

December 19, 2012
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Your correlation takes a big leap in cause and effect. If marijuana is legalized don't expect all the smugglers to go legit and buy warehouses and trucks and become big time exporters. Some will continue the way they have to undercut the legitimate trade and any holes in their revenues will be staunched by other illegal goods.

December 19, 2012
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venicerez said
Your correlation takes a big leap in cause and effect. If marijuana is legalized don't expect all the smugglers to go legit and buy warehouses and trucks and become big time exporters. Some will continue the way they have to undercut the legitimate trade and any holes in their revenues will be staunched by other illegal goods.

Yeah, because that's what happened when prohibition ended, right? When something like marijuana is made legal, the cost of producing and transporting it illegally becomes too high. Most large producers will sell out to whatever global firms take over production, most likely tobacco companies.

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December 19, 2012
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Marijuana should ONLY be used to help people who legitimately need it for medical reasons. It is a drug that helps too many people get high and don't tell me there is any other reason for it. Legalizing drugs is dangerous and stupid and using the fear of cartels to legitimize the sale of drugs is a fear tactic. This fine family man lost his job due to pigs who take advantage of weak people who have to smoke joints to get through life. Again, medical needs are one thing. Take a look at the regulars on the Ocean Front Walk and tell me that is the kind of society to be proud of!

December 21, 2012
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rjg said,

"Marijuana should ONLY be used to help people who legitimately need it for medical reasons. It is a drug that helps too many people get high and don't tell me there is any other reason for it. Legalizing drugs is dangerous and stupid and using the fear of cartels to legitimize the sale of drugs is a fear tactic. This fine family man lost his job due to pigs who take advantage of weak people who have to smoke joints to get through life. Again, medical needs are one thing. Take a look at the regulars on the Ocean Front Walk and tell me that is the kind of society to be proud of!"

 

Who are you to tell other adults that they can't get high if they so desire?

(and if you happen to drink at all, not only do you want to control other people's lives, but you're also a hypocrite)

December 21, 2012
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5th & Sunset said:

"Most large producers will sell out to whatever global firms take over production, most likely tobacco companies."

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This has been the only aspect of making weed legal that concerns me. Because it is different from crop to crop and strain to strain, there is really no way to make batches consistent and gradable... so what we will probably be sold is dried and ground cabbage, laced with a set  strength synthetic THC.  Think this is not possible???  Read the ingredients in popular soft drinks... I guess there will have to be "designer" organic weed for people who know the difference....   

December 21, 2012
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5th & Sunset said:

"Most large producers will sell out to whatever global firms take over production, most likely tobacco companies."

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This has been the only aspect of making weed legal that concerns me. Because it is different from crop to crop and strain to strain, there is really no way to make batches consistent and gradable... so what we will probably be sold is dried and ground cabbage, laced with a set  strength synthetic THC.  Think this is not possible???  Read the ingredients in popular soft drinks... I guess there will have to be "designer" organic weed for people who know the difference....   

 

This is what happens when Monsanto get's into the game. Processed Pot with a self-life 

December 21, 2012
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Venice WatchDawg said
5th & Sunset said:

"Most large producers will sell out to whatever global firms take over production, most likely tobacco companies."

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This has been the only aspect of making weed legal that concerns me. Because it is different from crop to crop and strain to strain, there is really no way to make batches consistent and gradable... so what we will probably be sold is dried and ground cabbage, laced with a set  strength synthetic THC.  Think this is not possible???  Read the ingredients in popular soft drinks... I guess there will have to be "designer" organic weed for people who know the difference....   

 

I think that is along the lines of what you'd see -- some mass producers selling cheaper products and smaller, "artisanal" producers making products for various part of the market -- similar to what we have in the beer industry, perhaps?

December 22, 2012
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jonf said I think that is along the lines of what you'd see -- some mass producers selling cheaper products and smaller, "artisanal" producers making products for various part of the market -- similar to what we have in the beer industry, perhaps?

 

 

Artisinal- that is one over-used word these days. Kind'a like the word "gifted", used to describe one's child that you think is so very bright.

I'll never forget the one time I went to some highly touted micro-brewery one time when I was in Colorado. Man, those were some crappy beers.

Anyway, No matter what, as long as you're selling weed that 99.999% of users use to get high there's going to be people who re-sell it to minors, etc. If pot is really going to be dispensed by prescription then it needs to be treated like like any other prescription drug and standardized and dispensed by pharmacists, not stoners.

 

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December 22, 2012
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Anyway, No matter what, as long as you're selling weed that 99.999% of users use to get high there's going to be people who re-sell it to minors, etc. If pot is really going to be dispensed by prescription then it needs to be treated like like any other prescription drug and standardized and dispensed by pharmacists, not stoners.

 

Ha ha ha You obviously aren't friends with any pharmacists. They all get high off their own supply, even the doctors!

 

December 22, 2012
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jonf said I think that is along the lines of what you'd see -- some mass producers selling cheaper products and smaller, "artisanal" producers making products for various part of the market -- similar to what we have in the beer industry, perhaps?     Artisinal- that is one over-used word these days. Kind'a like the word "gifted", used to describe one's child that you think is so very bright. I'll never forget the one time I went to some highly touted micro-brewery one time when I was in Colorado. Man, those were some crappy beers. Anyway, No matter what, as long as you're selling weed that 99.999% of users use to get high there's going to be people who re-sell it to minors, etc. If pot is really going to be dispensed by prescription then it needs to be treated like like any other prescription drug and standardized and dispensed by pharmacists, not stoners.  

 

 

Thus the quotes :) 

There are great microbrews and bad ones, like everything else.  But one thing they unquestionably do is to serve a decent chunk of the market that was tired of just drinking bland, mass-market beers.

Agreed re the prescription notion, which I think is the wrong approach -- I think it should be handled the same as alcohol.  But the way they have it now is just a weird half-measure.  The licensing is a joke.  And people shouldn't be out hawking it like the do on OFW -- to me, Farmacy on AK is what these sellers ideally would be like.

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