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LA City Attorney Carmen Trutanich to Speak at VNC Meeting
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June 12, 2012
10:33 am
Bret
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LA City Attorney Carmen Trutanich will speak at the June 19th Venice Neighborhood Council meeting.

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Topics the Neighborhood Council suggested Trutanich address include: to define the role of the City Attorney as it relates to the City Council and other city agencies; the City Attorney’s opinions concerning sleeping on public streets, the closure of Ocean Front Walk and the beach at midnight without a Coastal Commission permit; The City Attorney’s efforts to regulate billboards Citywide, and his opinion on proposed billboards in City parks, including Venice Beach.

Venice Neighborhood Council Board Meeting
1010 Abbot Kinney Blvd, Venice CA 90291 (enter from Westminster)
Tuesday, June 19, 2012, 7:00 PM until 10:00 PM

June 12, 2012
11:59 am
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WHAT ABOUT PERMIT PARKING??????

June 12, 2012
12:06 pm
Shane
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Coastal Commission will never allow it.

June 12, 2012
2:10 pm
shantyirish
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SUE THEM!!!!!!

June 12, 2012
2:39 pm
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We are suing the Coastal Commission, as is the City of Los Angeles.  Trutanich and his staff are handling it.

June 13, 2012
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I think a reasonable compromise on parking would be "2 Hour parking, resident exempt"

2 hours is plenty of time to go for a stroll on the beach and have lunch.  It would also encourage turnover of parking spaces, making it easier for others to visit and enjoy the coast as well.  The turnover would allow residence a better chance to find a parking space, particularly on weekends.

The Coastal Commission has ruled parking restrictions as being prohibitive to someone visiting the beach.  I disagree with them.

For starters, there's access via public transit.  You can easily park anywhere in Santa Monica and take the #1 bus for $1.00 to the Venice circle.  For that matter, you can take public transit from just about anywhere to Venice with a transfer or two.  Encouraging people to use public transit would be good for the environment, which would ultimately be good for the coast and all it's creatures.

There are also a number of paid parking options in Venice.  You have the lots on the boardwalk, you have the school on Westminster (on weekends and holidays.)  Most of them charge up to $20 for the day.  If I go to visit Hollywood Blvd. or Universal, I assume I'm going to pay for parking.  $20 or less for a day isn't unreasonable in this day and age.

I believe that the definition the Coastal Commission uses for "access" is simply too broad.  Contrast it to the case in Malibu where property owners were erecting fences to keep people from using pathways to access the beach.  Clearly, that's an issue.  In the case of Venice, it's pretty hard to rule that you can't gain access to the beach, while at the same time saying it's one of the biggest tourist attractions in California.

Given that there is public transportation to Venice, and that foot access to the beach in Venice is unrestricted – I fail to see why some form of parking restriction isn't permissible.  Hope the courts agree.

June 13, 2012
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Bird Man of Venice said
The Coastal Commission has ruled parking restrictions as being prohibitive to someone visiting the beach.

Except for every other single beach in California.

The real question is why Venice is the sole exception.

 

I like your idea though.

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June 13, 2012
9:04 am
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I know we are suing the state. I want the City Attorney to address that question………..

 

I want answers!

June 13, 2012
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"The real question is why Venice is the sole exception."

Unless I 'm mistaken, I believe this was answered by The Troot  at a VNC meeting when he said that  back when this was all being decided, everyone was given the option with regard to parking and Venice opted not to be included.

June 13, 2012
10:17 am
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Recently Chuck Posner from Coastal offered the reasons below as to why Venice cannot have permit parking.

a) many Venice residents have objected to the possibility of having to buy a permit to park on the public streets, b) the merchants have opposed it, and c) the Commission generally does not find that preferential parking for residents on the public streets supports coastal access. Every past effort has failed for one or all of these reasons. This is the policy set forth by the City of Los Angeles Venice Land Use Plan, which the Commission certified in 2000:


Policy II. A. 6. Preferential Parking. Establishment of residential preferential parking districts shall be contingent upon replacing displaced public parking spaces with new public parking at a minimum one-to-one ratio.

Implementation strategies

To provide adequate visitor parking, the preferential parking district(s) should be operated as follows:

- Parking restriction shall not be less than 4-hour within designated residential district(s); meters, if provided, shall be priced and enforced to encourage use of off-street lots and shall accept payment for time increments up to 4 hours.

- Require that the general public maintain the right to buy a day-permit allowing parking on all streets within the zone.

June 13, 2012
10:57 am
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Shane said
"The real question is why Venice is the sole exception."

Unless I 'm mistaken, I believe this was answered by The Troot  at a VNC meeting when he said that  back when this was all being decided, everyone was given the option with regard to parking and Venice opted not to be included.

At the big "dumping" Town Hall a rep from the CCC evasively answered the question by saying that Venice just didn't turn in it's paperwork in a timely manner. The excuses are always on hand for why they won't give Venice the option of preferential parking. One of the most popular is that we don't have as much public parking as communities three – five times larger than Venice in both population and geography. With the addition of parking structures they would lose that excuse yet they probably have twenty more lined up to take it's place. =/ 

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