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Anti-OPD Rally Held at Beyond Baroque
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June 4, 2013
8:28 pm
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Clarification:

I just got an email from a former VNC Board Member questioning whether Brooks would be eligible for OPD.  Now I see a question about Pacific. The short answer is yes.

The Beachhead article on OPD was purposefully incorrect on this point, stating that all the streets west of Main Street would be ineligible.  That's false. 

All the streets west of Main would be eligible for OPD except the metered spaces on Washington, Venice, Windward and Main.  A few short stretches on Main Street that front on government or commercial uses - dog park, school, MTA lot, Google, parking lot - would also be ineligible for OPD.  Most of the ineligible spaces are metered.  All portions of Main with ground floor residential are eligible for OPD.

Thus, Pacific, 18th, Market, Horizon, Brooks, Westminster and Rose are eligible for OPD.  If the residents there petitioned by 2/3rds for OPD, any resident of Venice could park there with a $15 annual permit.  The people that couldn't park there at night are non-residents: Boardwalk vendors, rental cars, low-budget travelers, etc.  OPD would free up more parking for residents of the walk streets by forcing non-residents to park elsewhere at night.

June 4, 2013
8:54 pm
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venicestakeholders said
Clarification:

The Beachhead article on OPD was purposefully incorrect on this point, stating that all the streets west of Main Street would be ineligible.  That's false. 
residents of the walk streets by forcing non-residents to park elsewhere at night.

"Shocking"

June 5, 2013
8:21 am
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@venicestakeholders. Just requested it. Thanks!

June 9, 2013
5:23 pm
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This isn't just about the parking or lack thereof--it's about the noise, and the garbage. Here on 18th we are regularly woken up by returning bar goers who have parked on our street. They stumble to their cars, hooting, shouting, slamming their car doors--turn up the music and the party continues! and of course all the peeps who camp out all weekend, music blaring from their cars, leaving dirty diapers, half eaten food, soda bottles, McDonald's leftovers, Subway wrappers, Swisher Sweet wrappers, putrid socks, torn t-shirts,32 ounce beer bottles and cardboard from their 24 packs on my street amongst all the other filth--vomit, feces, urine--when the beach bathrooms are closed and you've been drinking in your car all night, my yard evidently looks pretty inviting.

Restricting parking from 2 A.M. to 5 A.M. won't solve all my street's problems--but it's a start.

I agree, two hour parking until 6 P.M., every day, residential permit exempt, and permit only after 6 P.M. would be more help--however don't let the "perfect" get in the way of the "better".

 

I walked around my 'hood with Mark's postcards and got 32 of my neighbors to sign--I put my own postage on, just to make it a little more encouraging.

 

All hail Mark--Let's back his play. Go to the meeting on June 13th-This THURSDAY and speak your mind!

June 10, 2013
8:33 am
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Loulou said
This isn't just about the parking or lack thereof--it's about the noise, and the garbage. Here on 18th...

Please don't take this personally but srsly, you move to 18th and you didn't know that you were entering ground zero for all the looniness of Venice and OFW? I'm sorry if this sounds callous but you should move just for the sake of your sanity.

I'm salty and that's what keeps me spicy ©

June 10, 2013
8:44 am
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Loulou said
This isn't just about the parking or lack thereof--it's about the noise, and the garbage. Here on 18th we are regularly woken up by returning bar goers who have parked on our street. They stumble to their cars, hooting, shouting, slamming their car doors--turn up the music and the party continues! and of course all the peeps who camp out all weekend, music blaring from their cars, leaving dirty diapers, half eaten food, soda bottles, McDonald's leftovers, Subway wrappers, Swisher Sweet wrappers, putrid socks, torn t-shirts,32 ounce beer bottles and cardboard from their 24 packs on my street amongst all the other filth--vomit, feces, urine--when the beach bathrooms are closed and you've been drinking in your car all night, my yard evidently looks pretty inviting.

Restricting parking from 2 A.M. to 5 A.M. won't solve all my street's problems--but it's a start.

I agree, two hour parking until 6 P.M., every day, residential permit exempt, and permit only after 6 P.M. would be more help--however don't let the "perfect" get in the way of the "better".

 

I walked around my 'hood with Mark's postcards and got 32 of my neighbors to sign--I put my own postage on, just to make it a little more encouraging.

 

All hail Mark--Let's back his play. Go to the meeting on June 13th-This THURSDAY and speak your mind!

Don't you know you're supposed be satisfied with the filth and noise? 

June 10, 2013
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im putting a couch in front of my house in solidarity with the filth of venice... i welcome anyone to sleep on it.. ps.. free wifi

June 10, 2013
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Shane said

Loulou said
This isn't just about the parking or lack thereof--it's about the noise, and the garbage. Here on 18th we are regularly woken up by returning bar goers who have parked on our street. They stumble to their cars, hooting, shouting, slamming their car doors--turn up the music and the party continues! and of course all the peeps who camp out all weekend, music blaring from their cars, leaving dirty diapers, half eaten food, soda bottles, McDonald's leftovers, Subway wrappers, Swisher Sweet wrappers, putrid socks, torn t-shirts,32 ounce beer bottles and cardboard from their 24 packs on my street amongst all the other filth--vomit, feces, urine--when the beach bathrooms are closed and you've been drinking in your car all night, my yard evidently looks pretty inviting.

Restricting parking from 2 A.M. to 5 A.M. won't solve all my street's problems--but it's a start.

I agree, two hour parking until 6 P.M., every day, residential permit exempt, and permit only after 6 P.M. would be more help--however don't let the "perfect" get in the way of the "better".

 

I walked around my 'hood with Mark's postcards and got 32 of my neighbors to sign--I put my own postage on, just to make it a little more encouraging.

 

All hail Mark--Let's back his play. Go to the meeting on June 13th-This THURSDAY and speak your mind!

Don't you know you're supposed be satisfied with the filth and noise? 

I'm not sure how banning parking w/o permits from 2-5 will make much of a dent in filth or noise.  I'm on Venice and the noise I hear is mostly from stereos and motorcycles when they're leaving the beach on weekend afternoons, and the filth comes throughout the day and night (especially on weekends).  Maybe things are different elsewhere, though.

June 11, 2013
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I wonder whose name is on the check providing busing to Long Beach on Thurs from Beyond Baroque while most of us are at work and if the city of Santa Monica is providing snacks?

June 13, 2013
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SaltWater said

 

Please don't take this personally but srsly, you move to 18th and you didn't know that you were entering ground zero for all the looniness of Venice and OFW? I'm sorry if this sounds callous but you should move just for the sake of your sanity.

Did it ever occur to you Saltwater, that I have a right to try to change what I think is wrong? The complete lack of respect and common courtesy I see from itinerant beach goers is somewhat unfathomable without having experienced it first hand--so frankly, no, I didn't know just how bad it really is RIGHT HERE. I lived on Ruth for almost 13 years, and no one could possibly have accurately described in a convincing manner what it's like this close to the beach without having lived here. I didn't have a dog. I lived a mile from the beach. I wasn't in the habit of trolling OFW from 2 to 5 AM. I had a job and was saving for a house. 

Here's a suggestion: Why don't YOU move for the sake of my sanity? Or just stop making assholish remarks--that would suffice.

June 13, 2013
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Loulou said

SaltWater said

 

Please don't take this personally but srsly, you move to 18th and you didn't know that you were entering ground zero for all the looniness of Venice and OFW? I'm sorry if this sounds callous but you should move just for the sake of your sanity.

Did it ever occur to you Saltwater, that I have a right to try to change what I think is wrong? The complete lack of respect and common courtesy I see from itinerant beach goers is somewhat unfathomable without having experienced it first hand--so frankly, no, I didn't know just how bad it really is RIGHT HERE. I lived on Ruth for almost 13 years, and no one could possibly have accurately described in a convincing manner what it's like this close to the beach without having lived here. I didn't have a dog. I lived a mile from the beach. I wasn't in the habit of trolling OFW from 2 to 5 AM. I had a job and was saving for a house. 

Here's a suggestion: Why don't YOU move for the sake of my sanity? Or just stop making assholish remarks--that would suffice.

I think Saltwater actually tried to be nice about what he/she said . Geez.  I lived at the beach with your same circumstances for many years and finally was happy to move a mile away from the beach ... that was in the 80s, people blocking your garage, leaving used needles under your steps turning on your water to bathe (changed that to a key turn on), drunk and loud and driving recklessly, leaving garbage everywhere, and not to mention trying to get home in traffic,  and on and on.  Again life at the beach is only worse now not better.  I can't imagine how anyone would not know in advance how crazy that would be especially since you lived her for 13 years already.  Good luck trying to change that.  You know "if you can't stand the heat......"

 

 

June 13, 2013
9:06 pm
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Years ago I lived in Playa del Rey on Pacific.  After that I vowed never to live at the beach because of the parking situation so I moved .6 miles inland.  But then the Coastal Commission came into being and now by definition 'I live at the beach'.  The beach came to me.

I bought property here because it was affordable, not because I wanted to live at the beach.

 

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