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December 24, 2012
9:57 am
Stephanie Ashwood
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Just had our mail stolen out of our mail box here on Santa Clara Avenue. And the day before Christmas! Called the police. Officer Cha refused to take a police report because, he said, it is a post office matter. When we pressed him on this, he consulted with his superior, Sgt. Lowe, who stood by that refusal, claiming once again that it is a post office matter. Even though it's a theft from my property? BTW, anyone ever spotted one of these Post Office Police Officers? Didn't think so. Chances are, your local mail thieves haven't either. 

December 24, 2012
11:38 am
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Wow, thats low, sorry to hear it.

 

For whatever its worth, I actually saw a project that involved Postal Inspectors researching ways to sterilize mail after the biological attacks of the early 2000's. They really do exist. On the positive side, if you have surveillance video or some evidence and they catch this Grinch, there is no BS city "catch and release" diversion programs with the Feds.

December 24, 2012
11:55 am
Venice Rob
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Just had our mail stolen out of our mail box here on Santa Clara Avenue. And the day before Christmas! Called the police. Officer Cha refused to take a police report because, he said, it is a post office matter. When we pressed him on this, he consulted with his superior, Sgt. Lowe, who stood by that refusal, claiming once again that it is a post office matter. Even though it's a theft from my property? BTW, anyone ever spotted one of these Post Office Police Officers? Didn't think so. Chances are, your local mail thieves haven't either. 

 

So if you see some stealing from your mailbox, what do the LAPD want you to do, call the postmaster. You might want to write a letter to chief Beck's office to get the official policy on this. 

December 24, 2012
12:44 pm
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Our Venice Postmaster? I bet he is right on the job.

 

Had my mail stolen many times years ago, postmaster did nothing.

December 24, 2012
12:53 pm
Venice Rob
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cch said
Our Venice Postmaster? I bet he is right on the job.

 

Had my mail stolen many times years ago, postmaster did nothing.

What do you expect, they can't even deliver the mail to the right address most of the time.

December 25, 2012
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see Venice Rob is once again trashing someone, my postman rocks!

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December 25, 2012
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Ms Venice

 

This is just coincidence, I don't know Venice Rob.

 

That said you are very lucky to have a good mail carrier. I recently gone a new one and at least twice a week he mis delivers or tosses the mail into the yard. Why I don't know. Either he is running late or.......

 

He's the new guy who walks around with a cigarette in his mouth.

 

Over the many years I've lived here I've had only one carrier that was both personable and competent. He wears the pith helmet in the summer time.

 

Other than him, I couldn't give a hoot if the Postal service folded.

 

Shanty

December 25, 2012
10:33 pm
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Living in Venice and still having a mailbox that is not locked?  My mailbox is, basically behind barbwire.

We have great postman but I will happily fold the Post Service too and use privet companies, which I do most of the time now any way. my postman will be just fine with his pension, actually, he will be better off doing nothing and collecting his government pension.

December 25, 2012
10:49 pm
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My postman is great too, but he's been with the postal service so long he gets many, many weeks of vacation each year and for those weeks we have to put up with really atrocious service from his subs.

December 27, 2012
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Folding the postal service in favor of UPS or Fedex would be fine here in Venice, but what if you were to retire to a remote area?  The USPS is mandated to deliver everywhere, even tiny communities that are remotely located.  If you were to privatize the post office, there are communities that would be deemed "unprofitable" to deliver to by a private company.  That means that those people would have to drive a long distance every day to pickup or mail a letter.

We all have our postal horror stories.  I ordered a nut for a friends guitar in early December.  Tracked it with the tracking number all the way from Arkansas to Los Angeles - where it was "missent".  Ordered another just in case.  The 2nd nut is in Venice and due to be delivered today.  Still no sign of the first one.

So yes, we've all been there.

Having said that, when you consider the unbelievable volume of mail that the USPS delivers every day, they are arguably very efficient.

And even the private guys don't always get it right.  Remember that surveillance video a while back of the UPS driver tossing the fragile packages into a yard and running off?

Anyone running a major business will have issues with specific employees and isolated incidents.

I can honestly say that we have a very decent and conscientious mailman at the moment.  Our service gets a bit more sporadic when he is on vacation, but our regular guy is awesome.

As for LAPD not wanting to take a report, I think that's bogus.  Again, it reminds me of what happened when our car got broken into.  The cop we called to report it to asked if we were going to make an insurance claim.  I told him no, since the cost of the damage was less than my deductible.  He then told the Mrs. that since we weren't filing a claim, there would be no need to make a report.  He actually talked her out of reporting a crime.

Of course, no surprise, they announced with great fanfare a month or two later about what a fabulous job they were doing, since property crime was "down" in Venice.

I think that the LAPD will often talk someone out of reporting a petty crime just to make there stats look better.

I guess the legal question is at what point is mail no longer mail?  Is it under the care and control of the USPS until it's delivered, or until you physically open it?  My belief is that it should be a federal crime to interfere with the mail until it's delivered to your door - after which the theft of property from your mail box should be an LAPD matter.  Passing the buck and refusing to get involved just doesn't seem right.  Maybe they should change their motto to "To Occasionally Protect and Somewhat Serve"

While I'm ranting - here's another one.  Got a call from some guy collecting money for some police association.  I told him that I would take his info and check with the Mrs., since she handles the household budget.  He kept pressing me for the money, even saying "Who wears the pants in your family."  (Like that's really gonna make me want to write him a check.)  I asked if the LAPD felt that it was morally okay for me to lie to my wife, since that was what he was asking me to do.  Didn't exactly cast them in a good light.

Okay, I realize it was probably some company they hired that works out of a sweatshop, but still.  You would think that someone collecting money for the police would care about morals.  Just found it ironic.

Hope you get your mail back.

 

 

December 27, 2012
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Bird Man of Venice said  I ordered a nut for a friends guitar in early December.  Tracked it with the tracking number all the way from Arkansas to Los Angeles - where it was "missent".  Ordered another just in case.  The 2nd nut is in Venice and due to be delivered today.  Still no sign of the first one.

I know guitars have holes but I didn't know they had nuts.

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December 27, 2012
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SaltWater said

Bird Man of Venice said  I ordered a nut for a friends guitar in early December.  Tracked it with the tracking number all the way from Arkansas to Los Angeles - where it was "missent".  Ordered another just in case.  The 2nd nut is in Venice and due to be delivered today.  Still no sign of the first one.

I know guitars have holes but I didn't know they had nuts.

Just look under the fret.

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