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"Nouveau" Food Truck Regulations Needed in Venice
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December 6, 2009
2:41 pm
Bret
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The "Nouveau" mobile food truck trend, started last December when the Kogi truck began parking outside of the Brig, has gotten out of hand during Abbot Kinney First Fridays. First Fridays were started by local Abbot Kinney businesses as a way to promote local business while giving back to the community, opening their doors with free wine and food and celebrating a bit while slinging their wares.

So what is the problem? The nouveau food trucks are not community based and use Abbot Kinney events solely to take from the neighborhood rather than help contribute to it. Our local businesses pay high dollar rent and taxes and still manage to help local charities, local schools and promote local artisans and craftspeople. Local businesses hold a vested interest in making Venice a better place for all of us that reside here and those that visit here.

What has happened? Venice embraced the nouveau food truck trend and many of these food trucks have chosen to be bad party guests that literally trash our home every time we allow them to come to our party.

First Saturdays (Pict by Elisa)
Abbot Kinney First Fridays Trash

Many show up to make a dollar and then take off leaving a pile of their trash behind … common sense for any business is to keep their place of business clean, but the nouveau food trucks hide behind the fact that their business are run on city streets. You know what nouveau food truck owners? BS. Serve your food, then clean up your mess. If someone litters outside of Hals, Hals cleans it up. When someone litters outside of Abbots Pizza, they clean it up. There is no solid argument that just because they are mobile food trucks they should not be held accountable for the trash that they create … and to me it shows the mindset of the business owner when they see a pile of trash created by their truck and simply flip up their doors and drive away.

First Saturdays (Pict by Elisa)
Abbot Kinney First Fridays Trash

First Fridays are now wall to wall with food trucks. The only regulation we are aware of is that they have to have an agreement with a local business to provide a bathroom. While we like the food trucks, we do not like them blocking the sidewalks with their flip up siding and we certainly do not like the fact they do not clean up after themselves.

I'd think that the Abbot Kinney business association should stand together and start charging these trucks VERY high dollar fees for the agreement to allow them to access their bathrooms. We accepted them as a community and they chose to soil where we live. Not cool. While I know that some of the trucks do clean after themselves, I also know that as guests they should self police each other and tell the offending trucks to do the right thing, or clean up after the lame truck owners themselves.

On a more positive note, our pal Edizen from Venice Paparazzi took some great pictures during First Friday, check them out here.

December 6, 2009
3:07 pm
tourettes
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I hit my head on one of those trucks side doors that was 1/3 of the way across the sidewalk. Owner told me I should be more careful. Talk about a liability they create … and the trash .. screw them I am going to support local business from now on.

December 6, 2009
4:56 pm
Neptina
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December 6, 2009
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Hi there

I am a new comer to Yo Venice , but certainly not a newcomer to AK. My store Neptina is approaching it's 14th year here. I have seen so much come and go and I have watched the first Friday event blown up with incredible attendance this last year. Personally I dont feel a my glass store and the huge crowds … often with a pretty high alcohol content would be a good mix in my establishment, but the merchants who stay open seem to thrive and as always, I wish them much success. And yes I too have dealt with the food trucks, cleaned their messes, handled the ridiculous parking situation,etc, but this last Friday four young individuals around midnight were playing in front my shop and one takes a beer bottle and throws it at my truck denting the roof and hood. I have it all on my security DVD which i will be posting online). I had the police come out; They did nothing.  I will put up with a lot for the love of my street… and have all these years, but I refuse to just sit back and be okay with this. Anyone have any ideas?

December 6, 2009
5:54 pm
blackicewarning
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Yeah… we were witness to the whole food truck mess…disgusting foul behavior by the vendors.

I don't want to calll out specific trucks and the businesses that "sponsored" them but this was a real disaster

on their part.

But hey people at what point did you decide it was O.K. to just dump your trash on the street!

(I don't care if the limited number of trash bins were full.)

WTF!!

Next time give the trash back to the trucks!

December 6, 2009
6:20 pm
SaltWater
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This is so sad. Sad for two reasons.

First, regardless of how hip the nouveau food trucks are they're still just opportunists exploiting the popularity of the FF event on AK and in turn spoil the very nature of the event which was concieved to promote the tenant- brick and mortar business's on that street. Those merchants need all the help they can get and their generosity and good will is getting crapped on by the roach coaches.

Second, the law of unintended consequences has kicked in and people who are ejoying the warmth and hospitality of the local merchants are crapping all over the place by littering!

If I owned one of those business's on AK I'd be livid.

I'm salty and that's what keeps me spicy ©

December 6, 2009
7:02 pm
Bret
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Neptina said:

Anyone have any ideas?


Hi Neptina, welcome to the site!

Email us a picture or two from your security camera and you will find out if anyone in Venice knows who mangled your truck. (Yo@YoVenice.com)

We don't "play pretend" being cops here nor do we personally send things reported here to the police … but Venice looks after Venice, and as the most popular news blog and forums in Venice this site and the forums here have been very effective in solving some problems in the community many times as witnessed again last week: 

http://www.yovenice.com/forum/…..009/#p2643

December 7, 2009
10:49 am
bigragu2001
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i think they should close the street down on First Fridays, so vehicles (and trucks) can't get through.  it'll give people more room to walk and also alleviate the truck (and trash) problem.  just an idea and just my opinion…

December 7, 2009
11:50 am
indprod
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I love the food trucks.  I think they bring a lot ot the neighborhood, and if it means that we have to clean up after them, big deal.  I think the food trucks are a perfect addition to Venice – cheap, hip, multi-cultural, exciting, cutting-edge.  That's what makes Venice Venice.  Insisting that they pay huge licensing fees is something that Santa Monica would do. 

December 7, 2009
1:04 pm
Wsder
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The food trucks need to regulate themselves, or the city will do it for them.  I contacted a few of the vendors that operate the food trucks to talk to them about the trash left out.  The people I talked to were appalled at the disrespectful way some trucks left their spot on Abbot Kinney and assured me that they took extra time to clean up after themselves.  I am curious to know which trucks left the messes (if anyone knows).  By identifying the offenders, we, as a community, can put pressure on the AK business owners to avoid giving bathroom letters to said offenders.  

I personally like having some street food options.  They're operating costs are lower so they can provide quality foods at a cheaper price.  No frills food is an attractive option for those not needing the sit down atmosphere of Hal's.  That being said, 17 trucks seems a bit much to me on a First Friday.  Hopefully, the truck vendors will get themselves straightened out before the city has to do it for them.  

The city passed an ordinance to make trucks move every 30-60 minutes (residential or commercial respectively).  This ordinance was overturned because: "Local authorities may regulate vehicles for public safety reasons, The way this ordinance was structured did not promote public safety. Having the vendor move every 30 to 60 minutes caused more traffic congestion. There was also a health risk because cooked food has to be kept at a certain temperature. Forcing the trucks, which carried hot oil, to move frequently wasn't safe for either the vendor or the public."

 http://www.today.ucla.edu/port…..96061.aspx

December 7, 2009
4:12 pm
PREMIUMZ
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Look, I enjoy this food as much as the next guero, but too many trucks means too many lines clogging up the sidewalks, which means mad congestion.  The point of riding my bike or walking there is too avoid the traffic synonymous with LA.  They should only allow a set few of these trucks, preferably the Kogi and Grilled Cheese truck, and focus on more entertaining elements of First Fridays…like karaoke.

December 7, 2009
4:28 pm
SaltWater
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indprod said:I love the food trucks.  I think they bring a lot ot the neighborhood, and if it means that we have to clean up after them, big deal.  I think the food trucks are a perfect addition to Venice – cheap, hip, multi-cultural, exciting, cutting-edge.  That's what makes Venice Venice.  Insisting that they pay huge licensing fees is something that Santa Monica would do. 


Which one do you own?

I'm salty and that's what keeps me spicy ©

December 7, 2009
5:12 pm
Supergimp
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indprod said:I love the food trucks.  I think they bring a lot ot the neighborhood, and if it means that we have to clean up after them, big deal.  I think the food trucks are a perfect addition to Venice – cheap, hip, multi-cultural, exciting, cutting-edge.  That's what makes Venice Venice.  Insisting that they pay huge licensing fees is something that Santa Monica would do. 


The locals of Venice should clean up after outsiders so that truck operators can enjoy a better profit margin?!

I believe the phrase I'm searching for would be "Go f*ck yourself,"

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