As far as the ones that still have questions about the false news reporting…the innocent 50yr lady had nothing to do with Adam…she was at the wrong place poor thing at the wrong time. thank you all my family and friend that have been here for Desiree and I..And for always checking up on us, it has not been easy…but it has made us stronger
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Perla Pacheco and Desiree Pacheco

It really hurts to know somebody has robbed us of our future together you are my soul mate. You where everything to us, you gave us strength and courage in this world, I do not know how we can go on without you, the pain and hollowness is too much to bear for me.

Please give me the strength to wake up in the mornings, I will do my very best to continue making sure Desiree makes it to college the way you always wanted her to. I can still remember your words to her “Education is the key you have to go to college and get a career honey” “school is very important” she will remember all the encouraging you gave her for the rest of her life, she knew you were proud of her every time to would speak to someone about her. We miss you and love you, please be our guardian angel and protect and look after us. Our life will never be the same without you.

Media: it hurts to think that my husband is being categorized as a gang member, Adam was born and raised in Venice and loved this city. He was a Local and a legend to everyone that knew him in Venice. He was a hard working man a fire sprinkler fitter for the Union Local 709. He saved life’s installing these. He did not deserve to be killed in such a cowardly way being shot from the back; he did not even see it coming. It makes me sick how somebody can do this to another human being, they have taken him from us and we have to live with the pain while they walk around breathing. Please if anybody has any information please call the detectives at 310-482-6370

that being said, i have never been within feet of gunfire. but on sunday night, i was inside the otheroom. just feet away from where adam was standing, talking to one of the bouncers at the door. i saw him drop to the ground. and i saw the aftermath that ensued. the wait for paramedics, the fear on faces, the confusion about why there were no poilce arriving yet the street was flooded with them throughout the day b/c of the festival.

being a female and living mere houses from the boardwalk had its moments of fear. the random cholo in my alley. the meth heads. the hungry. the mentally ill. but sunday night left me very scared. not so much b/c of what will happen to the community – it’s been happening just not on abbot kinney (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/homicidereport/) – but b/c one of those three shots could have hit myself or someone i was with.

i really appreciate everyone’s input on this. it is cathartic to read about this city. OUR city. because whether anyone likes it or not, we are all staying here. time to kiss and make up, Venice.

Peace!

call 911 when they accidentally bump ur Mini Cooper..hahaha how u like me now.

That made me laugh so hard.

This one of your vids? Very cool sample with the strings on it. Thanks for posting up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3R2P4OsH0g

It’s not fair to make statements like “the Otheroom is owned by known drug-dealers.” The otheroom’s owner (singular) doesn’t even live in California. How much of a known-drug dealer could he be?

Statements like that, said so definitively with no basis or evidence – could really hurt a person and/or their business. Whether you like the Otheroom or not, it’s not right to attack the owner with allegations.

I heard today from a witness closer to Hal’s that the reason the paramedics took so long to get to Adam is that when they saw the woman & scene at Hal’s, they thought that was the crime scene. I’m sure they got 911 calls of a shooting on Abbot Kinney – and didn’t realize there were two scenes/victims to be dealt with. The witness told me that when the fire truck and paramedics got to California, they stopped and helped the woman, then seemed to realize that they had to get to the Otheroom scene. I’m sure it was chaotic for them as well.

Also, sometimes the medical professionals can tell more about the prognosis of a victim than we can. It may not seem like they were going all out with life-saving measures, but maybe they realized that it was futile. This isn’t TV. Crime scenes and medical emergencies are often much less dramatic than you’d expect. I wasn’t there on Sunday, so I can only go by what you’re saying about the level of urgency the police and paramedics showed, but I can also add to that some knowledge of emergency medicine & law enforcement from friends and family members in those fields.

Gangsters should never be memorialized

Being a gangster is the same as being a terrorist

Gangsters are sociopaths that help hold poor minority groups back

If you choose a life of violence don’t be surprised if karma smacks you upside the head

I’m latino and grew up dirt poor, there’s no excuse for choosing that life

Look – we live in Venice which is pretty safe compared to many other places in LA – just as much a balance of beautiful and safe as it is dangerous. Sadly we live in a violent world. The fact that this happened ON Abbot Kinney In front of the beer and wine bar has less to do with the place as the situation that could have happened anywhere else. Of course where it happened is scary for us all – but no less so then for the people who live a few blocks east and probably deal with situations like this much more then we are made aware. As the other witnesses say – there was no fight – this was a planned hit and could have happened anywhere at any time and we need to remember that at times like these instead of placing blame it is a time that we hold together as a community to support each other, our neighbors, merchants on the street etc… It is a time to reach out to each other – not to fight or call out racisim or make allegations about who does drugs where etc…
Whatever Adam ’s life was like that led to his terrible end – we can’t know and can’t judge unless we have lived a life like his. I will say I was horrified by the amount of time it took for the police to show – their laisez faire attitude about it (and I was held for questioning with my friends for an hour) and how when the paramedics strolled up they did not attempt any real life saving measures.
It was a tragedy – and sadly will probably not be the last we have…instead of petitioning for places to be removed – maybe we should think of positive actions – like starting a neighborhod watch – because Venice as part of LA county doesn’t always have the police presence it needs.

It is asinine and libelous to make the jump from alleged employee drug and alcohol use (and or financial gain from selling them) and place the owners of a business in with their lot.

VenicePie, if your concern is real, the information you have should be shared with the LAPD at their Non-Emergency Information Line 1-877-ASK-LAPD. If it is an issue of a rogue employee of any business in Venice, I am sure a simple call to the owners of the business will be enough to let them know your concerns and let them deal with the situation.

That said in all of my experiences with Equator Books I have never seen or been witness to any sort of drugs in or around their business.

Without your following through in the “real world” and calling the business or police with your information, I have to regard your accusations as merely that. How are we to know you are not the owner of another bookstore or something that is simply trying to sway public opinion here in our comment section? Please feel free to respond and follow up with your actions.

I am going to call Equator Books and let them know of what is being said here so that they can properly (not that they are on the defensive from these nameless accusations at all) address what has been said here.

I don’t get all this resentment toward the Other Room either, that place is nothing if not upscale….$9 a beer….do any of you people saying this stuff actually go there…and drink….have you ever….smoked…. weed…..taken a xanax on a plane ride?

This is kinda scary. I am all for taking the seedy dangerous element off the neighborhood streets but people seem to be confusing drug dealing with drug taking and desperate drug addicts with your own neighbors.

No desperate or dangerous people are going to the Other Room or Equator to get drugs. They would more likely break into your house and make drugs from your cleaning supplies and smoke it from your dogs ass than go into a store with books or a bar that serves more than red or white wine.

Bars and Restaurants, always, all over the country, have some sort small amount of drug selling/taking. People aren’t moving pounds of Heroin and Crack through these places. Some DoucheBag who just bought a loft down the street from you is going to buy some coke, snort it with a girl, she’ll go home with her friend when the bar closes and he will do the rest on his kitchen counter while catching up on Heroes or Lost.

This isn’t a terrorist attack.

I think the Venice Community needs to unite and try to make it a safer place.

I think some posters forget the “allegedly” part of their posts .. then again .. I don’t know everything about the goings on there. You could make the argument that schools are where drug dealers hang too, but that is not their primary purpose .. nor do I think the other rooms is.

The other room is a great place (I can’t say what it is past 8pm, I am usually gone by then.) but others that go more often may be way more hip on the scene.

drug dealers and gang members do not hang out there, wine sipping yuppies hang out there.

you all sound like a bunch of racists. gang member = non-white.